Buggy Matte auf dem Wasser

Hallo zusammen,

ich hab schon länger ein Experiment vor und zwar mit einer Buggy Matte (Peter Lynn Vapor) aufs Wasser mit einem Kiteboard zu gehen. Dazu nütrlich Trapez und Umlenkrolle. Mir ist klar, dass wenn der Kite ins Wasser fällt die Zellen vollaufen und ich dann erstam zurück ans Land muss. Ich möchte es aber einfach mal ausprobieren, da sich 1. der Spot ganz gut eignen würde (Fahrt parallel zum Ufer), 2. die Kites mir beim Buggy fahren auch nicht auf den Boden kommen (bei den kleinen größen eher als bei den großen und wenn dann auch eher auf die bockigen Landwindbedingungen zurückzuführen), der Vapor eine ganz gute Upwind-Performance hat und 4. ich diese Kites sowieso herrumliegen habe.

Ich wollte jetzt nun aber mal fragen, ob es davon irgendwelche Videos oder Kommentare im Netz gibt oder ob jemand Erfahrung damit hat? Meine Suche auf Youtube und Google hat mich leider nichts finden lassen.

Vielen Dank für jede Rückmeldung.

Hab doch noch was gefunden, einen alten Thread von 2010

http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2362580

Da beschreibt einer seine Erfahrungen von Open Cell Kites auf dem Wasser. Ein lesenswerter Beitrag aus dem Thread.

Zitat

I like Dan's question. I remember Dan's kite snowboarding stoke from ten
years ago by the way...hi Dan (you probably don't remember me).

I haven't flown my Flexifoil Blades on the water in a while but I hope
to again soon. I used my B3 10.5 as my ultimate light wind kite until I
finally picked up an SA2-19. I could squeak upwind in 8 +/- 1 kt but the
SA19 is significantly better.

Obviously, a Flexifoil Blade in the water has an extremely low relaunch
rate. I swam in a couple times every year out of 60-90 days on the
water. If a Blade user were dumb enough to ride out farther than he were
able to safely swim in (with no PFD) the kite sure won't help the rider
get back in. These are issues of inconvenience and not safety (unless
the rider has really lousy judgment).

If the wind picks up like crazy, there is no safer kite to drop in the
water. No worrying that the kite will blow somewhere and hurt someone or
get torn up. Get it wet and it will stay down.

In a really horrible launching and landing place, the Blades pop up
really easily and you can land them anywhere. At the water's edge, in
the back of a truck, on the grill of a car, on a porch, in a bush, on a
tree, on some grass, in front of a trash can or volleyball pole, or even
your child standing on the beach. I've done them all. They don't get
destroyed easily and they don't hurt the things (or persons) on which
they land.

In offshore winds I always enjoyed my Blades. No leash. Jump and spin
all you want. If for some reason you were unable to stay upwind just put
it in the water, roll it up (from the trailing edge only) and wrap it
in your shirt or harness and swim in. It will never pull you out to sea
and won't blow away, even if your lines break. An open cell foil and a
"disposable" plywood board were my typical preferences for strong gusty
offshore days. I never lost a board and never had to dump the kite to
get back in, but it gave me peace of mind to know I could go out in
those conditions and not worry about losing expensive equipment.

There is no kite faster and easier to launch and land than an open cell
foil (especially a 2 line although I prefer depowering 4 line systems
unless I am in the mood for more of a challenge).

In the early days, the guys who pulled out a Blade 4.9 or 3.3, or an
F-One ATK 6.5 were guys with a serious go-for-it spirit. Seemed like
every good rider had a 4.9 hiding in their trunk or under the seat of
their car.

I used my own mods, especially the loco-blade depower mod which I posted
on the foilzone and maybe on kiteforum as well. I had awesome depower
and a really user friendly kite with a bit of decrement in low end raw
power.

I will be using my Blades on the water again as they are really fun and offer something unique.

From my standpoint, flying an open celled kite requires the a commitment
to keep your kite in the air. Paragliders, hang gliders and airplanes
are flown with the same discipline. I don't drive my car with a
willingness to crash it a few times an hour and I don't ride my bike
that way either. If a person is willing to COMMIT to keeping the kite in
the air and is willing to face the no relaunch consequence (I probably
had a couple swims a year) a nonrelaunchable open celled foil offers a
unique kind of safety, convenience and satisfaction. It is a little bit
like using a wakeskate over a wakeboard with boot bindings. One of them
takes more discipline and is less forgiving of mistakes but for a small
number of people is really satisfying and fun in its simplicity and
challenge.

If it weren't for my Flysurfers I would very happily do almost all my
kiting on my locoblade modded 10.5 and 6.6. I would have a few swims
every year and would spend zero to 10 minutes a year on repairs. I am
completely willing to put up with the drawbacks in exchange for the
advantages. I prefer my Flysurfers for a number of reasons but I will
always love the nonrelaunchable foils.

There are a lot of ways to enjoy being pulled by the wind over the
water. Each has its own unique advantages and disadvantages. I enjoy
this variety while others do not. Open cell foils with their obvious
disadvantages have many (not so obvious) advantages in convenience,
durability, reliability, versatility, personal/public safety and minimal
size & weight to make travel really easy. In general, I enjoy
whatever am fortunate enough to experience.

John

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Danke für die Antworten, wenn Du die Bilder noch finden würdest, dann wäre das klasse. Noch besser wären Videos.

Übrigens habe ich noch einen alten englischsprachigen Thread gefunden: http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=18621 Da gibts sogar ein Fotor, leider sehr unscharf.

Ich werde es vielleicht shcon dieses Wochenende ausprobieren und dann berichten.

Ich habe auch Tubes und einen closed-cell Flysurfer, trotzdem will ich es mal mit den Vaporen auf dem Wasser probieren. Ich glaube es könnte funktionieren. Wahrscheinlich am besten mit langen Leinen, oder?

Wow cool, der scheint ja surfen zu können, während alle anderen Tubes nicht mehr genug Wind haben. Mein 11,2er müsste ja dann bei wenig Wind auch gut funktionieren

Danke für den Input, welche Grüße muss ich denn wählen im Vergleich zum Buggy-Fahren? Gleiche größe, oder bischen größer, weil ich mehr Power brauche?